John Down's 117 DMU page...

 

 

Berthed at Furnace Sidings, Blaenavon is 51351, beginning to look half presentable, on 13 November 2004. Car 51397 is behind

This no frills site, simply records progress on John Down's three-car Class 117 Diesel Multiple Unit, which lives on the Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway. There are (or at least, will be), some photos, especially as and when the unit looks a bit more presentable. Although the site has some buttons, these are simply for navigation within the one large page, whilst the 'back' buttons return you here, to the top. There are a few links to other sites, and these are shown conventionally within the text. For reasons of operational simplicity (and cost!), it is attached to the PBR website, and can be accessed therefrom. The page was written in 800 x 600 resolution and is probably best viewed that way.

Click on the buttons below for more information, or go down using the scroll bars. Use the 'BACK' button to return here. New uploads (other than trivial corrections to spelling etc). are in RED. Last update 13 Dec 04

 

...WHAT VEHICLES ARE INVOLVED?

...PREHISTORY

...THE PLAN

...ARRIVAL

...EARLY DAYS

ALSO...

Diary of Events
A note on the Smith's Heaters
The leaking gutter saga (Technical Bulletin)
The tacho circuit and Start Isolation Relay(Technical Bulletin)
Getting the right green! (Technical Bulletin)


Although it is expected that many people will visit the main PBR site, this page is really for the railfan. Within this group probably less than half are diesel freaks, with an even smaller proportion being true DMU devotees, many of whom will be subscribers to TRA newsletter. This page is directed mainly at this small group, so some of the pages will get a bit specialised - sorry! Also, as long as the number of images is small, they will load directly, ( being JPEGs of about 0.5Mb), with the time penalty that this imposes. If the number of images gets large, and assuming I can find the time to find out how to do it, I will precede these with thumbnails.

 WHAT VEHICLES ARE INVOLVED

Driving Motor Brake Second (DMBS) 51351

from Reading set L415 (with TCL 59503 and DMS 51393). There is evidence that this vehicle spent its last years in the West Country, so it was probably allocated to Plymouth (Laira).

Trailer Composite Lavatory (TCL) 59520

from Bristol (Bath Road) set B430, but later Tyseley set T305 (with DMBS 51368 and DMS 51410). This vehicle was later downgraded to Trailer Second Lavatory (TSL)

Driving Motor Second
(DMS) 51397

from Reading set L418 (with DMBS 51355 and TCL 59507)

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PREHISTORY

Quite the best general history of the class prior to preservation is to be found in the Railcar Association site at

http://www.railcar.co.uk/

I have determined the following sketchy information regarding allocations from 'Rail', together with Ian Allan and Platform 5 publications. It looks as if all three cars were allocated to Reading (81D) until 1985. Not until 1986 can I find evidence of set numbers (though, generally, set numbers were used from the early seventies). 1993 sees 51351 allocated to OOC, but, judging by the presence of vinyl maps above the luggage racks, its last turn of duty was in the Far West. No doubt based at Plymouth (Laira). Incidentally, 51397 has London area maps, and Brummies clearly know where they're going, because 59520 has none. 51397 seems to have been with Reading until the end of its 'big railway' days in March 94, but 59520 has had a more varied history. To Bath Road in 1986 and at Tyseley by 1990 (just when, not known). By May 1994 it was at Penzance carrying the set number 117418, though by March 1997, still at Penzance, the set had been reduced to two cars. Quite apart from being painted in Brown and Cream, the roof finish is entirely different from the driving cars. Needless to say, if anyone can help 'fill the gaps', I'd be very grateful.

 

51351

59520

51397

1985

RG

RG

RG

1986

RG, L415

BR, B430

RG, L418

1990

RG

TY, T305

RG

1992

RG

TY

RG

1993

OOC

TY

RG

1994

PZ

PZ, 117305

Finished

1997

 

Finished

 

 

Other snippets:
Jul 90 51351,51397 noted in NSE livery
Jul 90 51368,51410, 59520 noted in GWR livery
7 May 94 set 117305 noted at Falmouth
3 Dec 93 51351 RG > HQ NWXX Spare
3 Dec 93 51397 RG > HQ NWXX L718

It looks like the two motor cars were brought, privately by Alan and Tracy Lear, for preservation around 1994. At that time the two motor cars were in NSE 'toothpaste' livery, whilst the trailer (which looks as if it might have been bought a little later) remained from the 117 set painted by Tyseley in pseudo-GWR Brown and Cream in order to celebrate the GW150 happening. Initially they worked on the Chinnor and Princes Risborough Railway until after Christmas 1995 when they were placed in secure store at MoD Long Marston in early 1997. Unfortunately the area in which they were secured was not particularly secure, being that part of the site leased to the nascent Stratford and Broadway Railway. The people there are a smashing bunch, who really deserve to succeed, Anyway the unit suffered from the ministrations of the self-styled 'urban artists' who covered the vehicles in graffiti.

There is little doubt that over five years in the sun and rain did little for the vehicles, and, coupled with a defective design around the guttering meant that the cars suffered badly. As a result of the defective guttering, lots of rainwater entered the cars, causing extensive failure of the inside cladding, especially below the waist level where most of the hardboard had bulged outwards, several window frames were rotten, a large number of seats were mildewed beyond redemption and most of the lino was lifting, at least along the edges. In one or two areas the outside metal skin was parting company with the body frame, and this has caused large gaps to appear around the windows. Additionally there is evidence of tinworm, though most of this is localised in 51351. Most of the rust problem can be dealt with filler in the short to medium term, but welding is expected to be needed in the longer future. The sun had also done its bit degenerating the fabric of the moquette, which had become very fragile where the sun had caught it. The cars also provided homes to any number of birds which had done what birds do. Altogether the insides were smelly, dirty and depressing.

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The plan

The Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway is a small heritage railway. It has struggled for almost twenty years, overwhelmed by an obdurate local authority. However there have been important changes in the last year or so. Firstly, as our landlords, the local authority transferred the land on which we operate to Museums and Galleries of Wales in 2000. Secondly, and rather ironically, since they are no longer our landlords, they have recently commissioned an extensive feasibility study on our operations, largely, it is appears, as the result of pressure from visionary activists from within their own Tourism Department. At present we operate the traditional fayre of two or three Mark 1s worked by steam or ex-industrial diesel, and a privately owned two-car power-twin Class 108. We may be struggling, but we do have the most stunning scenery and a DMU provides the ideal vehicle from which to view it. The feasibility study calls for extension, ultimately to 7 1/2 miles and it appeared that another DMU would provide an economical way of securing additional capacity for tourists on our enlarged line.

Although I looked variously at 101s, 107s, 108s, and 121s, I entered the DMU preservation business rather late, so that by the time I arrived there was little left from which to choose. I had finally gravitated to one of the ex-Shoeburyness 101s, but I sensed that everything was going to go awry with all the asbestos nonsense. As a result, on the off-chance of seeing a 117 for sale, I jumped in and purchased the 117 from the Lear's. Frankly, 117s had little appeal for me, being a bit too spartan for my tastes. Nevertheless it was a case of Hobson's choice and a 3-car 117 set was finally purchased.

Externally the plan is the return the unit to something approximating to its 1960 condition, that is dark green with whiskers, with grey roof and white end-domes. Underneath orange electrical components will be returned to black, and selected equipment painted silver. At present I am agonising over the correct shade of green. Internally much of the damaged rexine covered hardboard will be replaced with varnished ply, which will hopefully make the inside just a little less forbidding. Wooden window frames will be scraped back to the wood and varnished, though some are to be replaced. Fluorescent lighting will be retained. Although it was originally planned to have a bar in the rear saloon of the DMS, consideration is being given to installing it in the TSL. The plan is to have a bar fitted to the side of the vehicle previously containing three-a-side seating, whilst most of the seats from the two-a-side side will also go to provide a circulating area. This strategy will neatly lose a number of seats that exceeds by a few that number of seats previously damage by mildew, so that, with a bit of playing musical chairs, all of the remaining seats will be in reasonable shape.

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Arrival

(from an article taken from Winter 2001 'Top Line', the house mag of the Pontypool and Blaenavon Rauilway, and slightly modified in order to retain sense)

The arrival of the Queen of Sheba (who is reputed to have had a very long train!)
On Thursday 25 October 2001, possibly one of the railway's worst kept secrets was realised when the first two vehicles of John Down's 3-car Class 117 DMU set arrived on site, courtesy of Engineering Services Ltd. Driving Motor Brake Second (DMBS) 51351 was the first vehicle to arrive (ex-Reading set L415, in NSE livery), shortly followed by Trailer Second Lavatory (TSL) (ex-Trailer Composite Lavatory (TCL)) 59520 (ex-Bristol (Bath Rd) set B430 and then ex-Tyseley T305) in Brown and Cream.

Trains return to the Clydach Gorge - 51351 and 59520 roar up the Heads of the Valleys road

 

- hotly persued by the local constabulary (who were in fact providing the escort from the other side of the Severn Bridge)

 

The following day, Friday, saw the third vehicle DMS 51397 (ex-Reading set L418, in NSE livery) arriving in driving rain to join the 190-feet long train. The set was transported from the Stratford & Broadway Railway at MoD Long Marston, where it had been in storage for about four and a half years. During the last year the set has received significant attention from graffiti mechants. Previously the set had worked on the Chinnor and Princes Risborough Railway. It is intended that the vehicles are returned to their 1960 'as built' livery, that is, dark green with 'speed whiskers' and cream lining. Roof will be mid-grey with white roof domes. It is planned that they enter service in Easter 2003.

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Early days (from Spring 2002 'Top Line')

Quite apart from the graffiti, there are a few other problems. Much of the graffiti on the windows has been shifted thanks to the efforts of one of PBRs new members. Internally, mildewed seats have been removed, bird poo scrubbed off, and the inside generally aired. A rotting guard's door has been replaced. After a struggle getting the batteries in 51351 to take charge, and fuelling the train, both engines in 51351 have run very smoothly. On this car, one Smiths heater has been fired up successfully, though work is needed on the other. On 51397, thanks to the acquisition of a new charger, the batteries there are just beginning to take charge and we hope it won't be long before the set's four engines are all running. Then with the better weather we can start on the serious painting.

I had thought that I might be done under the Obscene Publications Act for transporting this graffiti-ridden set through the roads of Merrie England. By the time this photo was taken, at the least the filth had been removed from the windows, and the vilest expressions on the undergear painted over. I'm just about ready to start on the green painting. Note that the centre car is one of the Tyseley brown and cream set - but there will be no reprieve - it's going green!

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Diary of Events

28 June 02- Both engines on 51397 started, the capacity of the No1 engine to throw oil out of its filler cap was quickly traced to a pair of blocked breathers, and soon solved. Both engines start immediately on almost no throttle and run very steadily and quietly. Early problems with No2 engine were traced to a duff tacho PCB which drives the SIR relay (start isolation relay). At present the relay is frigged. Initially the No1 engine would not bar. On seeking advice it was suggested that there might be a coke build up on the top lands of the cylinder. Accordingly, some clever tricks with two metres of fish tank hose saw me sucking white spirit out of its container and squirting it into Nos 3 and 4 cylinders. After about a fortnight the engine turned OK - but the white spirit tasted horrible!

 

11 July 02 - Work on the roofs of both motor cars is now essentially complete thus:
(a) all loose and fragile bitumen-like material scraped off, to leave only a few patches still covered.
(b) weld seams and rust patches cleaned down and painted with red oxide
(c). all exposed galvanised steel etch primed
(d) roof painted in a silver grey vinyl loaded micaceous iron oxide paint. Horrible stuff, will NOT brush out, ruins brushes, needs two gallons per roof - and if it fails in the next seven years I'll go round and kick the supplier's door in!

Work remains to paint the roof domes white, and to make a better job of some temporary repair work at the cantrail level where the dome joins the roof.

15 July 2002 - With both engines running so well on 51397 and with air pressure up to its limit and reservoir vac well on its way, it seemed a good idea to tinker in the cab. The throttles appear to work, but track badly. I suspect that one throttle motor is missing a step. The horns work - very well! I've even managed to get the brakes to come off - but at the expense of frigging the DSD relay (there is obviously a contact problem here, which I'll look at in the next few days).

The cab of 53197 looked really tatty with flaking paint, damp and corrosion everywhere. With the damp problem largely contained (see report elesewhere), and rain preventing progress on the roof, I was bored and idly tinkering and tried scraping the desk with a Skarsten scraper. Once half a dozen layers of black and blue paint were removed a clean smooth material emerged underneath which looks like SRBP (synthetic resin bonded paper). A bit of wire brushing and scraping round the controls removed flaking silver paint and all at once things started to look a zillion times better - and with it, the hope that from the mouldering remains of the cab, something really smart can be realised.

27 July 02 - Painting (but not lining) is complete on the driver's side of 51351. The side was in quite poor condition, and I have had to do quite a lot of filling. There was an overwhelming need to get rid of the awful graffiti, and improve the general resistance to weather. Unfortunately I have been rather heavy-handed with the sanders and there are a lot of scars. In due course these can be re-visited, but I want to get something running by Easter 2003, and to confirm, before I attempt an NRM standard of finish, that there are no undisclosed horrors, for example, in the gearboxes. Some of the graffiti paint is reacting with the new paint, and some runs and 'teardrops' which I failed to see in the profusion of colours, now show through the green. Still it DOES look a lot tidier. Oh! and my daughter gave birth to 3lb, 8oz of Eddie, No5 child, and eight weeks early, this morning!

51351, freshly painted in green, on a muggy 27 July 2002

51397 waits for attention, same day - but I'm pleased with the appearance of the roofs!

December 2002 - Late 2002 has unfortunately found it necessary for me to take over a very much more responsibility on the railway than I had planned, with the inevitable result that progress on the 117 has suffered. Even further, involvement in my friend Charles James rescue attempt of 1896 Dean Brake First Open has made the situation worse. However a dry September saw work turning to painting the east side of 51397 and extending some of the roof sealing work. In terms of painting a side, quite the most irksome part of the work is painting the door edges and jambs - the outside panels are real luxury by comparison. The jambs and door edges are now complete, but with the gnawing realisation that the colour I have been using is wrong -see new Technical Bulletin 'Getting the right green'. I suspect in the fullness of time they will have to be re-done (as well as the complete east side of 51351), so perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that work has been delayed whilst the slow process of research grinds to a conclusion.

 1 May 2003 - Progress has been slow but steady. The centre trailer 59520 has been extracted and the remaining motor cars coupled as a power twin. Outside the east side of 51397 has now been painted in dark green 'B2' (see Technical Bulletin), as has the front of 51351. I am far from happy with the surface finish and there is little doubt that further rubbing down will be needed. Both end have their roof domes now have their roof domes painted white - it's likely a second coat will be needed. Inside 51397, replacement of the lower hardboard panels, with new plywood panels, treated with Barretine, and painted with Antique Pine 'Sadolin' has greatly improved the ambience. Even the best of the original panels were warped, and those that had a rexine covering were coming adrift. Damage was particularly severe at the front end which was leaking badly. The panels had all but fallen off and everything was covered in green algae and slime (except the seats which were covered in white mildew - these have been replaced). The original panels were secured at the bottom by a low skirting. Self tapping screws passed through these and through the panels into a metal upstand. A deeper skirting has now been fitted employing brass screws which sit higher, and pass over the upstand into the wooden noggins - a design that permits much easier removal for maintenance. Additionally the top end of the panels sits up under the window frames and is thus captive - the original panels were just crudely butted up. At the far end of the car the design of the bar area is essentially complete and material ordering is imminent. This will not simply be a counter, but will take its inspiration from the RMB type design

13 December 2004 - Golly - is it really that long since I last put something on the site!
Most of the internal work has been concentrated on 51397, whilst most external work has been done on 51351. Both units have seen electrical work completed. Regettably, during March 2004, , there was a break in to 51397 by means of breaking a droplight in one of the doors in the rear saloon. Several other vehicles on site were also ransacked

On 51397, all of the internal lower waist panels have now been replaced. This really was rather a longer job than I had anticipated. It took much longer to remove the old panels, since it involved removing the trims alongside the doors, and the narrow trims alongside the windows below the upper panels. In nearly all cases the steel screws had corroded and 'welded' to the aluminium. These are now being systematically replaced with countersunk slotted head stainless steel screws which not only improves appearance but hopefully will avoid further corrosion problems. The small trims are being replaced with hardwood equivalents for a variety of reasons. Some trial scrubbing of the floors has revealed clean blue lino, and it has become clear that a wholesale effort will be needed to scrub the entire floor, which, on the basis of the trial patches dramatically improves the overall appearance of the saloon. Perhaps most important has been the completion of most of the bar which is illustrated below.

 

 

The bar in the back saloon of 51397 looking towards the front. Clutter remains on the racks, and on the counter - the urn has been thoroughly tested (by drinking gallons tea issuant therefrom) and works off a mains shore supply. Batteries are maintained by fixed chargers. The urn is shortly to disappear to a counter 'inside' the bar. Seats are maintained at each end of the passenger area (one can be seen). Out of sight to the left of the camera is a new door has been fabricated but with standard BR fittings. Work remains to grain and gloss the lower panels. A pair of 12volt Dichroic lamps, wired in series, provide a bright and cheerful ambience above the bar counter.

 

On 51351 lining has been completed on one side, and around the cab, lining and whiskers applied, together with the necessary blue coupling square. For no other reason than I like the look of it the modern 'Thames' insignia has been retained, but it may go if howls of protest are heard. Numbering remains to be applied. The upper lining has been applied to 51397. I am pleased with the general profile of the whiskers, which compares well with pictures I have seen, and I am particularly pleased that they clear the central headlamp with no apparent distortion. Work continues on both cars to seal leaks in the window rubbers, and most of the leaks seem now to have been controlled.

There has been considerable work on the electrical front. On 51397 a completely smashed jumper receptacle has been rebuilt. It's not entirely pretty, but it functions so far as I can tell. The complete unit has been mains wired with shore connections at the front of 51397 (for use when the vehicle is berthed overnight) and below the guards footstep on 51351 (for use when the unit is at our station, Furnace Sidings). This has necessitated the fitting of two inter vehicle jumpers. On both cars the Halon cylinders have been removed, and connections modified so that the cylinder integrity sensor is fooled into thinking that the cylinder is still there. On 51351 a wire corroded off close to the engine and powering the shutdown solenoid has been bypassed, though its final connection has not been made. Batteries on 51351 despite appearing to initially revive now appear to have finally died, though we have a few more tricks to try. On 51397 a burnt out Water Level Relay (in a box on the side) has been replaced by a modern plug-in type, and festooned with jumbo 10mm LEDs so immediate diagnostics can be made when an engine won't fire up. At the same time the Start Relay (which was unreliable,and in the same box) was similarly replaced. Due to the flat batteries (and the non-functioning shutdown solenoid), neither engine has run on 51351, though both have run sweetly on 51397. There appears to be a crack on one of the NRV castings and this results in failure to generate sufficient air on 51397.

My Chairman has insisted that return to traffic of the unit is now a high priority and late summer 2005 appears to be realistic. With a few more diesel loco drivers coming through the pipeline, it looks, at last, as if I am going to have the time to prepare the unit, so watch this space.

 


A note on the Smith's Heaters

On the Smiths Heater front, attempts to run 51351s heaters in early 2002 met with SOME activity. The RHS unit ran and smoked a hellava lot, but didn't seem to be doing much heating. The LHS unit failed to run. A similar experiment on 51397, in late June 2002, was more interesting. The RHS heater appears to function,. The LHS heater was run for about 15 mins before I realised that the car was filling with smoke. Outside the unit was whirring fit to bust and throwing out flames! No panic, I thought, just throw the BIS. No chance! The bloody thing just carried on belching forth smoke and flame, and it wasn't till I pulled out the Jones plug that the wretched thing finally stopped - who said DMUs were boring? Since then I've pored over the circuit diagram, but the drawing was clearly drawn by a draughtsman, not an engineer, so glimmers of understanding are coming only slowly.


TECHNICAL BULLETINS

The leaking gutter saga
is here:
TB-leaky-gutter.htm

The tacho circuit and Start Isolation Relay
is here:
TB-tacho.htm

Getting the right green!
is here:
TB-greens.htm


The end!